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Date/Time:1970-Jan-01 01:00:00
Subject:[proj-imim] Underwater Panoramas

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proj-imim: [proj-imim] Underwater Panoramas malcolm yeo 1970-Jan-01 01:00:00
Hello.

I've been lurking on this list for some time now. 
Firstly I would like to thank Prof. Dersch for his wonderfull Pano Tools, 
Philo, Ben, Joost & Max Lyons to name a few of the laterally minded people 
on the list who contribute to the collective knowledge. 

Unfortunately I'm slow in reading the digests, so usually when I find 
something I'd like to comment on all the discussions have been and gone. 
This is in response to Renaud's 25th August note about underwater panoramas.
YES it is possible.

History:
I started a few years ago after seeing the frustrating efforts a friend went thought
with his homemade underwater panoramic camera - by the time he set it up the 
subjects moved and wouldn't come back into shot. As I'd just learnt of Panorama 
Tools I tried hand holding my housed SLR and 16mm fullframe fisheye. I proceeded 
to shoot three rolls of panorama sequences and learn about Panorama Tools in 
earnest. One of these attempted panoramas worked!!

It is hard and SLOW to produce anything of merit underwater.

At first hand held sequences resulted in most panoramas being failures after 
tinkering for several weeks with PTOptimiser, PTGui and Photoshop masks. I 
attempted to use the Philopod next but it was frustrating trying to correct for 
the slightest water movement. Now I'm using a cheap monopod; a little like what's 
mentioned at www.outsidethelines.com with the compass glued to the bubble level. 
This is small, flexable, and quick to use. I'm still using my SLR/16mm with Fuji 
ISO800 Pro negative film (Pushed to ISO3200). I have almost succeeded with ISO800 
film but occasional exposures of 1/15sec @ f/2.8 handheld don't really work even 
though water density and the camera mass aids hand holding.

Subjects:
360' is such a large area to fill with interesting subjects!

In fact I no longer shoot land panoramas unless there is an unsettled or cloudy 
sky. Why waste 50% of your image? I've considered generating taylor-made skies 
using Terragen and incorporating them in the pano but I'm not patient enough to 
wait for the rendering to complete. 

Panoramas best display the feel and expanse of the underwater scene but the best 
subjects (schools of fish) move too quickly and are unpredictable. I find I shoot 
fixed geographic features (narrow channels or wrecks) where interesting life 
congregates. Finding wrecks around where I live: Sydney, Australia is a problem also 
as they mainly occur in deep water (40-50m) and nitrogen narcosis at this depth can 
lead to surprises when you see your developed sequences.

Be careful, an apparently interesting vertical submarine cliff will only fill 180' 
at best as it will look similar to an interesting, flat & horizontal substrate.

Method:
I note a reference spot on the bottom and shoot the basic pano around that (aproximately 
60' between images and a zenith/nadir), then I withdraw and await the people/animal 
subjects moving into a more photogenic position, I then swoop in quickly, roughly 
line up to my reference point and shoot the "talent" for inclusion as extra shots. 
The good thing about this method is I don't need as high positional accuracy for the 
extra shots as the actual panorama shots, this allows me to respond to the subjects.

Output:
I aim to generate high quality spherical panoramas for print & transparencies as 
I don't have any web presence. Some underwater images are best converted to 
circular fisheye projection (pitch=-90'). Others are best displayed as two side by 
side 180' circular fisheyes (pitch=0' yaw=+/-90'). 
Lately I've started mixing psphere and circular fisheyes: 
I start with two side by side 180' circular fisheyes (yaw=+/-90'), then I add a 
psphere 180x180' layer (at yaw=0'). So instead of having a rectanglular image 
(ratio 2:1) I get a sausage shaped image (also ratio 2:1 but with round left 
and right ends). This seems to work OK as at the join at yaw=+/-90' the two 
projections match. Sometimes the extreme stretching at the top and bottom of the 
psphere ends too abruptly but it works best if nadir & zenith are a low detailed 
region of the image. This really does improve the composition of some images!

Is this 'Mal-Projection'?? I'm certain the French speakers will enjoy this term!!

Currently I'm working on adding artificial illumination to show the glorious colours 
in my panos. I'm thinking of using a large sub-reflector to give even lighting but 
the bulk of the equipment can detract from my safety in waves and currents.
More on that, if I'm successful.....

Renaud the most important skill to learn first is your diving skills before attempting 
any photography underwater. It's nice to shoot panoramas but you want to stay alive!

I hope this has been of interest to you all.

Cheers.
Mal Yeo
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