PanoTools:
Re: Re: "Brocap" integration - please test
Carlos Chegado - www.netlojas.biz 2006-Mar-03 14:51:33
Yuval,
I will try your script so you better don't die on me now...
When I see a deal so good to be true, I start to wonder what's going on.
You say that you will provide this service for free, you will develop
the script for free, you will host the detection script and pay the host
bill on xenaura.com charging us nothing on return and better yet, you
will keep your eyes open updating the script whenever is needed to cope
with new browsers also for free for the foreseeable future!
Is this too good of a deal or what?
I would have more peace of mind if you at least allowed as to donate
something in return of your effort!
Seriously, in face of was written here about the Brocap, what changes
are you planning to do in the near future?
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Carlos Chegado
Olho de Peixe Lda
Yuval Levy wrote:
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>you raise a couple of important points that have to be considered. See my further message to the correction of the DevalVR detection error in reply to Fiero (the error was corrected first thing in the morning before starting to go through the messages here).
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>Carlos Chegado - www.netlojas.biz wrote:
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>>Although I agree that Yuval has no bad intentions by hosting the
>>detection script at xenaura.com, I would much prefer to have the
>>detection script in my own dedicated server that I can look after and
>>arrange for it to be working all times and I am willing to pay for it
>>just to have this peace of mind.
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>There is something inconsistent here. You are willing to pay to have this peace of mind, but you will achieve the opposite. In the long term you will be paying more, not less. You will not have peace of mind because the code on your server will become obsolete as plug in technology evolve and you will be alone trying to solve this.
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>>It is a problem for me to depend on scripts hosted somewhere else to
>>have my websites running well.
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>I have a problem with scripts, applets and other code that is left rotting on unmaintained websites and becomes obsolete. Look at how many websites still run older ptviewer 2.5, or even earlier.
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>When your customer stops paying you, will you keep updating the detection mechanism on his site?
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>I don't mind that the sites become obsolete. I do mind the effect that this has on the reputation of the software. When people hear the words "Java" and "panorama" in the same sentence, they recall those lousy jittering thumbnails and this taint the reputation of state of the art Java viewers such as Immervision and ptviewer 2.8.
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>>Another problem is to work with it for several years relying on this
>>script just to find at some point in the future that this doesn't work
>>anymore due to problems that could happen to Yuval, the kind of problems
>>that could happen to anyone like death of go broke due to a divorce for
>>example.
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>Exactly. It can happen to you to. And who takes care of the websites that you have set up for yourself and your clients then? Your concern is legitimate, it applies to you as well as to me, and it is solved with proper planning and "estate management".
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>1. The service is carried by Xenaura, Inc. - not by Yuval Levy. If Yuval Levy dies, nothing changes.
>2. Xenaura, Inc. is currently a team of two full timers and three part timers. The skills to maintain brocap are redundant.
>3. Brocap is fully documented. The procedure to identify new plug ins and to add them to the array of tests is written so that any IT worker that can install a plug in, peek in the Windows registry, call a browser page and edit a basic PHP array can maintain brocap working. It would take a skilled IT worker less than one week to understand everything from the documentation and take over further development if necessary.
>4. Estate planning: In the event of Xenaura, Inc. going bankrupt, it will release the software in a way that it best see fits for the purpose (probably to another legal entity with the obligation to continue to provide the service for free).
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>>This will also have implications on the service I provide to my clients,
>>I could have to tell my clients that this website I just did for you
>>with this nice panoramas showing might stop working at some point in the
>>future if xenaura.com goes dead!!!
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>Do you tell them that the website you built for them will become obsolete over time? it will die worse than if Xenaura goes dead. The service as it is laid out now is fault tolerant, so the worse thing that can happen if xenaura.com goes dead is that your website reports no detection and goes on with the default display as if there has never been capability detection.
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>This as opposed to a website that containes a stale detection script. I have recently had an email exchange with Patrick Cheatham about programming some custom features into his spinControl QuickTime control. He sent me links to some previous work he did, and the detection code was broken. He was not aware of it, and it has been going for quite some time...
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>>Yuval, don't take this too hard, I want you to live forever man! Be
>>happy...and release the detection script at a reasonable price :-)
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>Nobody lives forever, Carlos.
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>In structuring brocap the way it is structured, I have made a conscious choice. I don't see any reason to back down from it at the moment. It works fine for me, for my clients and for those using the free service.
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>I don't think there is a reasonable price for the code. The service is free of charge. The reputation cost through the continued use of stale versions would be much higher than any money that can be made by selling it.
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